Catoosa County rejects YMCA, Rock Fitness Center proposals
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Catoosa County commissioners on Tuesday rejected proposals from the YMCA of Chattanooga and The Rock Fitness Center of Catoosa that would provide services to the community under tax-exempt status.

The YMCA has been discussing plans with the county since the summer to build a facility on the Benton Place campus. Their proposal included requesting funds from the county and having the county provide for a parking lot and lighting.

Rodney Waters, who owns The Rock Fitness Center, said he could provide the same services without requesting funding or services from the county.

After meeting in executive session for nearly 1½ hours Tuesday night, commissioner Ken Marks made the motion to reject both proposals due to the “economic times.”

“They’re both fine proposals, but I don’t think at this time the county’s economy is in shape to fund any fitness centers,” Marks said.

Board of Commissioners chairman Keith Greene added that because the county has just ended furloughs for its employees, the county is “not in a position” to work out a contract or give any funding.

Last week it was announced that the county saw a “complete reversal” of the improving economic trend it had been seeing for the last few months, with sales tax revenue down to its lowest point in two years.

Green said the county will reconsider the proposals, based on the improvement of the economy, in six to eight months. He said the most important aspect of having the YMCA or The Rock providing certain services for the county was “an improved quality of life.”

“This is something we really want to have in the county, whether it be the YMCA or The Rock,” Marks said. “But it’s a matter of funding.”

Rodney Waters, who owns The Rock, said he supports the county’s decision and doesn’t have any “hard feelings” because it’s a “financing issue”.

“It’s not a problem,” Waters said.

Randy Brown, president of YMCA of Chattanooga, said the decision was “very disappointing.”

“We didn’t expect this,” Brown said. “I thought we had the perfect partnership in mind.”

Brown said, however, that he understands the county’s position.

“They’re looking at their finances and we’re looking at our finances,” Brown said. “We both have limited re-sources.”

Brown said he “wasn’t sure” if the YMCA will make another proposal in six to eight months. He said because the YMCA of Chattanooga has eight other facilities to maintain, decisions for one facility can affect all facilities finan-cially.

comments (8)
« peachyallmond wrote on Friday, Nov 27 at 01:09 PM »
i am so tired of all the political stuff going on we have been hoping and waiting for the y to be in our area it would be a great asset to the community. i have a hubby who is 550 lbs he needs the y desperately it would be a lot easier for him to go to this 1 than having to go to chattanooga or hamilton place because we have walker county transit. i wonder how many people are in our area like my hubby some gyms just arent equipped for someone like my hubby bigger folks need this help they are left out he doesnt like going to some of the gyms because everyone there is already at their goal weight most of the time, and he gets stares everywhere he goes he just wants to be able to go somewhere comfortable to him like the y has been,so give them a chance i dont think we will be dissapointed chattanooga hasnt been
« Tux , The Penguin wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 03:41 PM »
All of this vindictiveness toward the Rock is (in my opinion) being ginned up to divert attention from the YMCA's attempt to grab property that belongs to everyone in order to benefit a small few. Having set up this straw man argument ,they hope that you will forget that the Y has thousands of members in the greter Chattanooga area that could be asked for an additional $5-10 a month to pay for this facility instead of demanding taxpayer owned property ,subsidized rent and tax funded infrastructure. am furious that our commission would even consider such a giveaway to this outfit when there are higher priority needs that are on hold (like sewerage services and way overcrowded schools)

We learned everything we need to know about the Y's agenda when they tried to play Walker County off against Catoosa a couple of years ago in order to coerce money and property out of the commission for this boondoggle. Also ,several "partners" have joined in this long running saga ,only to drop out when it became obvious that the Y is lookiing out for the Y and no one else.

We already have a Y facility here. It stinks. If this is what they call serving the public , I wouldn't trust them with a nickel of my tax money.
« ngbwr1 wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 02:28 PM »
wow sounds like you pick and choose what you want outta both sides....do you even know what splost money is for? Tell me what the county gets from the YMCA does any money come back to the community? Whats ironic is you bring up christian... wasnt it just a little bit ago the lfo cheerleaders were made to stop using bible verses but then the county is thinking of giving money to a christian organization. I was furious high school kids could not express themselves but it was ok to give out money. Did the north georgia YMCApay their own way? Did the Rock? So why shouldnt everyone have to unless it benefits everyone in the county bc thats whos money is going toward building it. The only thing comical is people with their hand out wanting something for free or they wont come thats funny coming from a non profit comapany....give them the land they ask for and see if they still come? if they dont it thats enough said. Also, Sim17 whining and attacking someone personally on a message board is cowardly, shows lack of character, and is as you would say comical. I do not see anyone else getting singled out use better message board etiquette.
« superbonbon wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 02:13 PM »
Well it looks like good 'ole Rodney now has Greene in his back pocket just like Bill Clark was.

The bottom line is, a YMCA would be a far superior complex and it would actually give back to the community...in more ways than one. Sure the Rock has a nice new, shiny building with fairly new equipment but frankly the Rock is kind of a joke. Their cardio machines are always full in the evenings and they charge you $.50 to "rent" a towel if you forget to bring one. I understand why they want folks to have a towel, but charging .50 to rent one is just plain dumb. I've been a member at both a YMCA and the Rock and in my humble opinion there is no comparison. The Y was better organized, cleaner and had a much friendlier staff.

What I don't understand is why our commissioners cannot seem to see the "big-picture." Once a new Y is built, it would attract more businesses/restaurants to come to the area. The county would definitely benefit in the long-run but I guess we'll just have to live with the good 'ole small-town politics as usual.
« Sim17 wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 12:39 PM »
The end to this thing is really comical and I think it explains a lot about how this County operates internally. We see that it is obviously run by who has the biggest mouth and can shout "lawsuit" the loudest.

The Rock obviously doesn't want the Y to grow because the owner will have to work harder. He was up at arms about the Y expanding, but I believe the Rock was built just three short years ago. If the math is correct, the Y has been in the area for over 20 years. Did the Y complain and threaten to sue when the Rock was built? I don't believe they did. Did the Rock take away some of the YMCA members? Without a doubt. Sounds like the Rock can't play on both sides of the ball.

It's ironic that the folks believe the guy who talks about his facility being accessible to those who are disabled, yet makes the decision to park his car in the handicap space everyday.

It also seems that we do not know the definition of the words "non-profit". Non-profit doesn't mean services are free. It means that any dollars that are left after all bills are paid stay within the organization. These dollars cannot go to individuals or for bonuses to the "people at the top of the food chain", they go to continue to operate and expand the business.

Right now, any profits from the Rock have the ability to go directly into already deep pockets.

Nobody complained when the same land was designated to be given to the college to build there. However, when it proposed to be given to a group like the YMCA, you get this unique response from the community.

It's a sad day when our worst enemy becomes a Christian organization--and especially when citizens become against something that they really have little understanding of in the first place.
« mred5055 wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 11:44 AM »
The Rock cannot keep a clean pool, in my experience.

Many times I have gone to the trouble of getting

up early to have my arthritis exercises in the pool,only to find that it is not clean,

has not been inspected for what has occurred the night before, such a infant feces in the water, then to have to get undressed again and go back home.

And yes, I did report this at the front desk. I used less than 1/3 of my 2 yr contract.
« GAsouthpaw wrote on Wednesday, Nov 11 at 11:24 AM »
I'm currently a member at The Rock and I have not been impressed with the facility. Rodney has a nice place but it's too small. There is no way that his business can offer the same programs as the YMCA. I have lived in Ringgold for 5 years now and have been waiting for a YMCA to open up. The YMCA typically has a good family atmosphere and they maintain their equipment well. The Rock is not a facility were seniors or even a lot of woman would feel comfortable. Furthermore, I have been working out at the Rock for close to three years now and the one steam room has been out of order most of the time. The Rock is a good gym for the mean time, but I think the Y would do really well along with being great for the Ringgold community. That's my two cents.
« Astro Pig wrote on Tuesday, Nov 10 at 09:21 PM »
Finally - some sanity by elected officials.

The YMCA would be great- If they would come in on their own dime. It never made sense to me to take land that is owned by everyone and hand it to an organization that is accountable only to itself. Now if they wanted to purchase the property (hopefully at a profit to the county) - I'm all for that. But their proposal is about 10 years behind the curve of events in Catoosa County. In 1999 , we didn't have a couple of new exercise /workout facilities like we do now. There was a real shortage of recreation fields and public parks to enjoy. Flash forward to today-the Mattox complex on Pine Grove Road is a showpiece . I have a hard time believing that they could provide services that are not already in existence.

One other thing that sticks in my craw- The Y itself may be non profit , but the people at the top of their food chain make GOOD money. Big money. I used to be a member of the Y in Chattanooga , and I know this first hand.The service was so bad that I dropped it. The employees there were so surly and curt that it was a relief to go somewhere else.
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