Freedom From Religion Foundation continues complaints against Walker County high school football coach
by Matt Ledger
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Preaching to the Ridgeland High football team

Ridgeland High School students show support for coach Mark Mariakis during the first home football game of the season, held Friday night, Sept. 14. (Messenger photo/Matt Ledger)
Ridgeland High School students show support for coach Mark Mariakis during the first home football game of the season, held Friday night, Sept. 14. (Messenger photo/Matt Ledger)
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(UPDATED with reporting from Ridgeland High School's first home game Friday night, Sept. 14)

The Freedom from Religion Foundation has remaining questions following a response from Walker County Schools received on Sept. 4.

The foundation claims to represent a complainant that alleged that prayer had become a regular occurrence at pre-game meals and game-day rituals for the Ridgeland High School football team

“For the most part it addresses a lot of our concerns,” said Andrew Seidel, FFRF attorney. “We’re not ready to say that we are fully satisfied yet, but it does seem like an excellent start.”

The group sent the response letter on Sept. 11 challenging the school system’s Aug. 30 letter addressing their complaints.

The foundation is not alleging that the school system has gone back on their response, just that there are conflicting messages from the system’s response and statement made by Mariakis during a recent prayer rally.

“We have not had an opportunity to check up, and our complainant hasn’t let us know that anything else is going on,” Seidel said. “We have been contacted by other people too who have raised other concerns and we will get to some of those later on.”

The new letter maintains that two of their original five complaints of religion are still unclear and need to be dealt with.

Seidel still questions if Ridgeland coach Mark Mariakis uses scripture verses as a motivational tool and if prayer will continue at team meals.

The assurances that “any pre-game or post-game prayer will not be led by, organized by or participated in by system employees or anyone other than students” and the team “will not have a team chaplain” meets two of the foundations previous complaints.

One of the complaints that players were modifying their jerseys with religious adornment could not be verified by Seidel or school officials.

“This change assures compliance with the Constitution,” Seidel wrote.

The foundation concern remains due to TV media coverage of a “Rally to Pray” event held at Chattanooga Valley Baptist Church.

The annual event, which had nearly 300 people, was held on Saturday, Sept. 8 and had been planned prior to the controversy, according to CVBC pastor Terry Chitwood.

It has been held outdoors and been open to the community as a back-to-school celebration for several years.

“The rain hindered the event. We could have had twice that but the weather was so questionable,” Chitwood said.

“We’re not called to change the world, but we’re called to share the Gospel, and that Gospel will change lives,” Mariakis reportedly said, according to the recent FFRF response.

“We consider his appearance inappropriate under the circumstances, because it seems to send a message that he is unrepentant and hostile to the First Amendment limitations on his proselytizing,” Seidel said. “It’s not clear to us that he understands that he’s not allowed to share the Gospel with his students and athletes.”

Seidel said Mariakis has a right to his own free speech during his personal time, even at the invitation of area churches, which could have been the case during Mariakis speech.

Mariakis has spoken at the church during a dinner event, a marriage retreat and even given his testimony about battling cancer at the church during recent years.

Seidel questions if the event was an effort to keep prayer in team practices and before games.

“He was not doing it as a representative of the school. He is doing it as a Christian man coming to a rally and exercising his right to talk about his faith,” Chitwood said.

“He just said what he believes as a Christian and shares our faith,” Chitwood said, and contends that Mariakis is abiding by the school district’s recent statement that prohibits educators from preaching to students or players.

The foundation claims to have religious quotes by Mariakis “dating back to 1996 and even photographic evidence of his participation in team prayers.”

The biggest concern of the foundation is the manner in which Panther team meals will be continuing and the foundation is seeking a specific policy to “clearly prohibit proselytizing.”

Seidel cited several court decisions that weigh in on the matter, including a 7th Circuit Court’s 7-3 decision in July that prohibited schools from having graduations at churches.

He maintains that team meals (as with graduation) should not be conducted at local churches due to the “sheer religiosity of the space created a likelihood that high school students and their younger siblings would perceive a link between church and state,” as stated in the Doe v. Elmbrook School District decision.

He also deems the usage of school buses taking players to local churches for the meal as inappropriate, and reminds school officials how much of a cost savings this would be in transportation expenses, and legal fees if it continued.

His solution would allow groups to bring food to the school or a local park and serve players without sermonizing.

Chitwood has previously stated that the church would deliver a meal to the school if necessary and abide by any limitations regarding prayer to continue providing for the players.

The three-page letter ends with encouragement.

“We hope the Panther can put this matter behind them soon and concentrate on winning. Good luck against River Ridge on Friday,” Seidel wrote.

“I suspect there will be some show of religiosity,” Seidel said about the upcoming game during a phone interview. “As long as it’s student-led and it’s not organized by any teachers or participated in by the school district, then they are more than welcome to go ahead and do that.”

School system officials are currently reviewing the latest letter and plan to respond soon, according to Walker County superintendent of schools Damon Raines.

First home game

The Ridgeland Panthers held their first home game of the season, since the religious controversy erupted, on Friday, Sept. 14.

The game drew a massive crowd to support the team and Mariakis, with many making a statement with spiritual T-shirts, including creative wording such as “Great Offense Defense.”

After the national anthem, the team marched into the stadium and customarily broke through the Panther banner. Within a matter of seconds, the starting players took the field and the game was under way. Public online calls to read one version of “The Lord’s Prayer” during a moment of silence never materialized, due to the pre-game adjustment. Ridgeland's first touchdown by Darrell Bridges was followed by a two-second "tebow" in the end zone. The second touchdown by Vonn Bell was celebrated with several chest bumps, which then received a penalty flag from the referee for excessive celebration.

The Panthers dominated from the first drive of the game and amassed a 42-0 lead at half-time.

All of the groups contributing to the team meal were announced at halftime, which received increasing levels of applause, as the majority of sponsors were local area churches.

One large group of adults in the stands had bright green shirts with “Freedom for Religion,” but had mostly left as the game was well in hand and the Panther’s secondary teams took the field during the third quarter.

School system response

The school system sent it response on Sept. 13.

“While we continue to disagree on the law regarding various matters, I believe that we both are desirous of respecting the rights of all of those involved in our system,” superintendent Raines wrote.

The letter reaffirms that team meals are provided by both secular and non-secular groups, but does not involve religious activities. It also states the “Rally to Pray” event had no affiliation with the school system, and that coach Mariakis can attend such events on his own time.

“I am of the opinion that all of your complaints and concerns have been carefully reviewed by the system,” Raines wrote. He considers the matter “is behind us now” and plans to continue to focus on the core mission and goals of educating the students in the Walker County school system.
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TomSawyer
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September 24, 2012
The Communist Manifesto spells out how to get socialism into place....which socialism is just another step toward communism. Socialist can own personal property, but not business property. Communists can't own either.

We have admitted socialists and communists in the house, senate, supreme court and of course its well known that our president is a communist that belonged to the communist party in Chicago as well being groomed as a communist in Hawaii.

Marx made it clear in the Communist Manifesto that in order to achieve communism we have to start with socialism and the first step is to dethrone God, he calls God opium for the masses.

The name of this group says it all, Freedom FROM Religion. Our constitution reads, Freedom OF religion.

People of faith are MUCH more tolerant than the press or the uninformed attackers would have you believe. They...and the reporter at this newspaper that wrote the article a few weeks back saying she was offended by prayer. We of faith are NOT offended when you don't join in prayer. Our heart may break for you the same way I hope your heart breaks for certain people.

We of faith believe we all have the God given right to live our lives as we see fit. Proof of that can be found in the fact that Lucifer was an angel that fell from grace. So, that tells us that even angels have free will. God does not want us to worship Him because if we don't we'll be killed...as is the case with Islam. He wants us to do it because its what we want to do.

You have every right to believe as you so desire....just as we do. Just as Christians are told to change the channel if they're offended by the program that's on, all we ask is that you be quiet during our prayers...not that you join in, unless of course you feel the desire to pray.

We fight for the unborn because murder is wrong. We are not racists, we fight for the unborn black, Hispanic, Chinese, and all other babies equally, just as we would fight for the atheist's right to not be murdered.

All of you that are writing here how great socialism is are so uninformed it breaks by heart. You want to hand over every aspect of our lives to a government none of us trusts, be they an R or a D.

Look at the Obamas, they tell us what we can and can't eat and drink, yet in every picture that's taken of them eating they are eating the very foods they tell us they can't have. They're trying to get us in a war with the rich, but look at how they live. My family lives on less in a month than what one of Mrs. O's sun dresses cost. My mortgage payment is less than the cost of her underwear. They're looking to buy a 35 million dollar house in Hawaii...more money than I'll have in my lifetime and the lifetime of my children.

How is it that you don't understand the politicians will be exempt from socialism? How is it Hollywood doesn't understand they are no more than the town jester and when they fail to amuse they will be beheaded? How is it you fail to know in communist China there are still the very poor and the very rich?

Why is it that I bother knowing you will believe what you are told to believe and refuse to learn the failed history of communism and socialism?

MSNBC and Obama are both using the advertising campaign word, "forward" A word associated with communism AND....a bald faced lie. Communism and socialism is a move, "Backward" not forward. Its about the loss of rights, not about anyone taking care of you or the destruction of the wealthy.

I don't ask that anyone agree with me, I just want to speak my mind...while its still legal to do so.
Rccfr111
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September 24, 2012
Well i may not have put in peirods when i wrote my first post. But at lest I care about your soul, and If you non beleivers don't get Saved and except Jesus you are headed for Hell , Cause no matter what you think the Bible is true And God is True. And You will see The wrath Of God One day . It may not be on this earth but every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that he is Lord, I hate it that it is so hard for some to beleive that a savor gave his life for them, But if it bothers you so much that others beleive then why do you want to cause trouble with the people that does. The beleivers don't go around getting a group of Christians together and trying to take you'll to court and trying to get you'll to stop beleaving the way you do it's your choice that you don't beleave so all Christians need to just pray for these Lost people that the Lord will enter in and they will just go on an realize that freedom in America is what this Country is Founded on And They must beleave something about Religion cause they sure want it stopped, and even named there name after Religion So less just Keep on Praying . God Bless America and Our Right to worship as we pleace , Christians Its past time we wake up and Take back what we stand on The Word of God And What out 4 Fathers , Men and Women fought four and that's top beable to let our Kids and Us to worship anywhere we pleace . Thank God For Jesus his Son . Amen .
Rccfr111
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September 21, 2012
First Of All Praise The NAME OF JESUS. John 14 Jesus saith unto Iam The way The Truth And the Life No Man Cometh To The Father But By me . So to all you Non Beleivers in Christ Hope You Injoy Hell cause it is Hott Down There And Thats Were All No Beleivers End Up Ill Be praying That Someday you will find the savor. God Bless the Coach and he's Family thats what's wrong with this country we have taking the Lord out of school and now we have Devils Brining Guns and Knifes into our school thank God For a man That Will stand up and try and keep our Kids out of Jail sails our Prisons cause thats also where most trouble makers go . And as Far as this Group why does it bother you if we Christians People Pray in Jesus Name It must Bother you because you feel guilty about it if you don't like it just keep your mouth shut and don't lisen the same if you wanted to worship your God we shouldn't say anything back to you as far as a Student's they could get up and walk out if they didn't want to lisen to what anyone is saying its not like there legs are broke so The Freedom of Religion Foundation Why don't you just go back where you started and bug your on People cause we don't like you hear causing trouble . Praise God For The Bible Belt and A Country where Religion was Founded . Go Live Somewhere else two Cause This Country was Founded on Religion .
Gatorfan
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September 21, 2012
Ever heard of a period? It's what you use to separate sentences. Maybe you should go back to grammar school instead of wasting your time learning about a false prophet.
CuriouslyAbsent
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September 22, 2012
Why do you hate the Constitution?
CuriouslyAbsent
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September 20, 2012
Thanks for posting the audio file. Seems like the FFRF has some pretty solid evidence of abuse with that.
LocalCrackpot
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September 18, 2012
I was speaking about socialism regarding public schools. I hope you can let go of your anger one day. Bottom line is you have a hatred for people who think different than you. You want people told and taught what you believe.
allenmac
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September 14, 2012
The Valedictorian at LaFayette High this past year, who also had the highest Grade average in the entire school, is a staunch Christian. She gave ALL credit of her accomplishnents to Jesus Christ in her speech. Funny how that didn't make the news.

It's hard to dispute Truth.
LocalCrackpot
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September 14, 2012
The real problem is the fact that we are forcing children into government schools. The more we head toward socialism, the more of this you will see. Socialist think that man can solve his own problems. We know we need God.
Frankenchrist
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September 14, 2012
Sweet baby Jesus YES!! We need to devolve into every man for himself! No police, firefighters, or schools!! They are all socialist. Pray for the fire to go out. Pray for lightning to strike the mugger that took your wallet. Pray for your kid to just know how to graph an equation.

While you're at it, pray for the Almighty, unstoppable, in Him everything is possible, to replace the lost arms and legs of our soldiers returning from religious war. I look forward to the results of your praying.
Gatorfan
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September 14, 2012
Frankenchrist I always love reading your comments! Good stuff.
CCRES40
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September 14, 2012
We need more Christian based schools in North Georgia. Chattanooga Christian, Brainerd Baptist, Silverdale Baptist, McCallie, and Boyd Buchannon all have a waiting list a mile long.

You're forced to send your kids to public school and deal with this atheist crap even though the majority of the kids that attend the school are from Christian households and the christian tax payers that fund the schools can't pray at a school function because a group from across the country sticks their nose in our business.
Gatorfan
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September 14, 2012
CCRES40 I'm with you! Take your kids and your Christian theology to a private school and get it the hell out of public schools! If you want religion in public schools than it needs to be ALL religions. Not just the one you believe to be true. But in the end the best solution is to not include religion at all. Kids need to learn truth in school...not fiction.
LocalCrackpot
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September 18, 2012
I never said anything about the police or fire not being paid for by tax dollars. Fact is you are Anti-Christian. You have every right to be! The fact that you took the Christian's Lord's name is vane shows it. Don't pretend to be defending peoples rights when you really just want them taught your beliefs vs. someone else's.Worse than that, you want some views eliminated.
Frankenchrist
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September 18, 2012
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought your post was about socialism, not taxes or atheism. That's why I RESPONDED to your post on SOCIALISM. You suck at strawmanning the issues Bub.

Fact is, if socailism is so bad go live in the desert by yourself and see how wonderful a society without socialism can be!

I am still waiting on your god that we so badly need to start regrowing human limbs. Ask and ye shall receive! Through him all things are possible! What, like cable to not go out during a storm? That you find a $5 on the street? WHOA!!
vols820
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September 13, 2012
I think the FFRF needs to crall back from where they come from. We have the right to pray anytime we want to. What gives them the right to say we can not.I hope we do not give in to them. May GOD BLESS THEM........

Gatorfan
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September 14, 2012
Hey vols820...I'm gonna get a job as your kids teacher and we're going to pray to Allah or even better Satan every morning and maybe in the afternoon as well. How does that sound? We should have the right to pray anytime we want and you shouldn't be able to tell me we can't right? School is a place to learn. It's not a place to be fooled into believing about a mythical God!
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