I think that a lot of us ought to get in on this didcussion.Most of what the preachers preach goes un- challenged. A pastor of one of the largest churches in this area used Proverbs as a way to rebuke modern America and indicated that the founders were almost God like. It seems that he should have felt some duty to reveal that Solomon was far from perfect and that the founders were also men of clay feet, that they and we struggle for perfection but have never obtained it. Instead he left the impression that people back then were more perfect than we are today.